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February 07, 2008




Resident Atheist

I never really cared for Romney that much, as he broke a cardinal rule in my book. He flip-flopped. I can much easier vote for someone who disagrees with me consistently but follows their convictions than I can stand someone whose opinion changes whichever way the political winds are blowing.

Even though I didn't particularly care for W, you have to admit he is a man of convictions (be them right or wrong). Compared to mamby-pamby Kerry, it was no contest. The Clintons are masters at leading by concensus.

One final thought--why would McCain need to woo the conservative base NOW? He should have been doing this when it would have taken votes away from Romney, if he could. The media is beating this drum (including you, John), but it makes no sense to me. Unless he fears a huge rally from Huckabee, he needs to start moving towards the center to pick off Independents and moderate Democrats. He will be able to mobilize the Republican base as long as Hillary is the Democratic nominee.


RA, you're right about the fact that McCain's attempt to woo conservatives will be made much easier, should Hillary be the Democratic nominee. However, the same cannot be said if Obama wins. His charismatic appeal, his race, and his lack of history with the American people will make him a much more formidable political foe.


I agree with Resident Atheist on his point about McCain. He has no need to worry about getting the republican right wing vote- it's not as if there's a viable alternative- they'll vote for him by default. He needs to focus on his independants, which (obviously) he's done a great job at reaching. I think he's got a good shot at winning, especially if Hillary and Obama continue slamming eachother. Surprisingly, I think the republicans have a shot at the presidency- which I never would've predicted last year!!

Resident Atheist

You are exactly right about Obama being more trouble for McCain. I am a perfect example of the type of person that would never vote for Hillary, but might choose Obama over McCain. I also think there is a much better chance of conservatives just staying home if Obama is the dem nominee.

Other than this CPAC conference, I still see no reason why McCain would worry about ultra-conservatives at this late point of the race. I've been wondering for years how a moderate would do in a general election, if one could make it through the primary system. I may actually get my chance to see this time.

chris corwin

the "coveted" endoresement from dobsen is the kiss of death to many people --- even a good portion of evangelicals.

the man is a cult leader, basically, and though his followers will mindlessly vote for whomever he tells them too, there are LOTS of people (like those who have actually watched spongebob, for instance) and whom actually *think* who will vote the opposite.


Chris, I agree and disagree with your assessment. My suggestion that Dobson's endorsement is "coveted" is only because for a good many evangelicals that is true (and Huckabee falls in that camp, though I might not if I were running for office). However, Huckabee and some of his supporters do not fully appreciate the evolution that is currently under way in the Evangelical movement (an upcoming post is on the way there...).

On the other hand, however, I would disagree that "his followers will mindlessly vote for whomever he tells them to". That presumes that those who respect and support his contributions to the culture are "mindless". I, as one who agrees with much of Dobson's perspective (but certainly not all), would not consider myself "mindless", and I know a great many evangelical pro-family Christians who wouldn't either.

Such broad generalizations are just as inaccurate as if we were talking about any other significantly influential public for example. For example, one can hardly suggest that Obama's followers are equally mindless for being swayed by a cotton-candy rhetoric--a charismatic speaking style that brings people to tears more because of his charisma than his content. Certainly, there may be many who fall into that camp, but there are many others who have chosen to follow his lead based on a critically-evaluated assessment. The same could be said for how critically-thinking conservative Christians filter a Dobson endorsement through their own decision-making grid.

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